You know what? You don’t even have to grow a backbone. So yeah, I guess you have to grow a backbone if you want to stand up to Donald Trump. And even then that’s not going to stop him from running. I mean, DeSantis is just praying that the man gets locked away. That seems to be the evolution of it, as of now, until somebody stands up to him. So we’re just gonna see the same thing again where no one’s really willing to go after him and he just rides to the top again? People are not running against him yet, and if you’re not going to run against him, he’s probably going to be your guy. And until DeSantis really makes him the enemy, or takes a position that is outside of Trump’s shadow, and stands up to Donald Trump, I don’t see there being a viable secondary option outside of Donald Trump right now. And so I’m really not seeing distance or space put between the MAGA supporter and the DeSantis supporter. The DeSantis supporters who were there were excited about people outside of Trump being on the ticket, but I don’t think I found a soul who is tired of the MAGA message or Trump himself. Everybody who was anybody who had nothing to do in Charleston between the hours of noon and one was there. And I went to Nikki Haley’s launch party, if you will. They’re not ready to throw him under the bus. And I found that that message has not stuck yet with Trump supporters. When I talk to the MAGA crowd it’s interesting, because Trump tries to paint this picture of DeSantis, his competitor, in a very negative light. You know, what I have not noticed is Trump fans disowning DeSantis yet. Have you gotten the chance to interact with any DeSantis fans out there? If you noticed in the last few years of the American news cycle, there are rarely dull days, so I’m not expecting it to be a quiet week. Trump and Pence are going to be hanging out at the NRA convention this weekend, I’m sure nothing will happen there. I know there’s the Dominion lawsuit that’s going on. There’s like a baker’s dozen in the works right now, so that can pop at any time. You know, a presidential indictment, I’m never gonna take it off the table. Are there things you're hoping for, any predictions, anything you really want to happen next week? I know John Leguizamo was hosting when the Trump indictment news broke and he was very excited about that. I want to pack the second acts of shows this week with those kinds of conversations.Īnd then the first act is probably whatever is happening in the news. And it’s me going out into the world for a lot of pieces, and having sit-downs with important people and people involved in culture. Let’s talk to these movers and shakers in politics. I want to cover this gun issue because it’s a cancer on our country and every day there’s a terrible, terrible news story, so let’s try to dig into this a little bit more in a way that I don’t usually get to do. We have another couple of big guests who we haven’t announced who are going to be on the show. We poured beers at Bell’s Brewery and talked about how they’re working in Michigan on gun safety measures, and we talked about how she ran on abortion as a winning issue in a place like Michigan, and we talked about the Michigan Wolverines, everything close to my heart. I flew to Michigan a couple of days ago to talk to Governor Whitmer at my hometown brewery. And so we’re prepping a piece for that right now. And I was like, I want to do a piece there, let’s dive in, let’s talk to people, let’s do some man-on-the-streets about our gun culture and our obsession with the AR-15. And so there was a terrible shooting and the world’s largest gun show was happening-11 acres of guns. It’s been in the news every week for as long as I can remember. It’s terrifying and, sadly, gun culture is not going away. Are you already working on stuff like that for next week? But you said you are prepping stuff, and you’re obviously known for pre-taping your field pieces at the rallies. A big part of the job is reacting to what’s happening in the news that day.
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